@ K "how did you get it to offset since i thought the collar would not allow you to do that? Either way it is a pretty collar."
@ Tad I have a question for you as well, not to be rude but why do most of your answers end up being this long mathematical dialogue that ends up confusing people? What ever happened to simple answers to simple questions. Just my two cents as I know a lot of us are not necessarily a programmer genius or math professor