Please Sticky the Shade Thread!

[Pancake Littlepaws]

As the title says can we get the shade thread sticked. It does offer some pretty valuable information to veterans and newer people alike! Along with giving a very good idea what shade is what and how they react in different light

https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=23028&highlight=Kittycats+shade

[Aisling MacMoragh]

I think the Burmese Platinum fur on this post (https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=2005) does a better job of showing the variation in the shade. It does however lack the last two shades introduced (Flash and Blush because it is a thread that has been around for ever and just been updated as Khea had the chance. But I do like the idea of making some things like that sticky, or even better would love to see kittycats add the information to their site with all the other trait info.

[Tad Carlucci]

A better alternative would be to add Shades to the Our Cats area.

Since many of the shades work better with some furs and far worse with others, and the controlling factor is mainly white/black-ness, I would suggest that shade examples should be given on both Russian White and Russian Black,

[Aisling MacMoragh]

(03-09-2016 07:11 AM)Tad Carlucci Wrote:  A better alternative would be to add Shades to the Our Cats area.

That was what I was indicating with the comment at the end "or even better would love to see kittycats add the information to their site with all the other trait info. "

And I agree consistency in the pictures would be nice. the current pictures on pedigrees vary more by ear than by actual shade.

[Tad Carlucci]

Pedigree pictures should NOT show shade. Doing so vastly increases the network load and storage requirements, but the largest impact would be to manpower. It's an exponential-growth problem.

What I was referring to was the 'Our Cats' section of the web site, where example images appear for each eye, ear, fur, etc. but not for Shade.

[Ivy Norsk]

Tad Wrote:Since many of the shades work better with some furs and far worse with others, and the controlling factor is mainly white/black-ness, I would suggest that shade examples should be given on both Russian White and Russian Black.

This is true. But also: since many of the shades like flair and porcelain and twinkle, involve blueish and greenish tones which can severely affect warm-toned cats, it helps to show the shades on warm-toned cats as well. I've mentioned my snowshoe reds, where flair really hurts, but also my aussie light chocolates look much worse with twinkle (and presumably also porcelain). I think it's a lot of photographs though, and I think it might be worthwhile putting up threads with photos provided by the community, with the stipulation that the light setting in the photos be consistent. At one point I had almost enough copper bengals with all the shade variety to do this, but not quite. (And by the way, the best shade for a copper bengal imo is blush.)

[Tad Carlucci]

The shades don't actually add a color. Those tones you're seeing are environmental effects. Generally, they come from the reflection (shiny) setting presuming a blue sky over a green field of grass being reflected off the shiny surface. That said, yes, the underlying general color of the fur should interact with that reflective overlay.

[Ivy Norsk]

Just to show what I mean (and because I'm procrastinating from RL), I took 2 pictures of Gretel on the left with twinkle shade, and Hansel on the right with natural shade.

This first photo is taken in Cal Windlight which is a strong even bright light often used for fashion photography which brings out the shades. Here it is easy to see that the twinkle has a greenish cast to it and the natural is warmer and cleaner.



This second photo is default SL lighting taken at noon. In it, Gretel appears to be brighter because of the twinkle shade, and Hansel, being natural, has nothing that lights him up.



Quick edit to add that I always turn my glow down from the default 2 to 1. I find the default 2 to be so abominable that I cannot cope in SL with it that high and some of the kitty shades are overwhelming at default 2.

[Pancake Littlepaws]

Ivy that first photo I think its not the right photo it seems to be a car of some sort!

[Ivy Norsk]

?!!!! I see my cats. Do other people see a car?